(Thai) BL recommendations. Part II

Also, check out the other parts

I really like BL series and I realised many other people like it too. Recently (since I’m working on this post since like forever, I guess, it was some time ago) one of my favourite websites with a list of BL movies and shows closed down for whatever reasons and now I’m pretty much devastated. So, I decided I’m gonna do something about it and name some other BL series recommendations (to at least help my fellow watchers)

I will also write some pointers on why I liked/disliked it and why you should/n’t watch it.

Side note: I already published a post with Thai BL recommendations (like a part I), so I won’t mention those recommendations again.

Side note 2: This time I will probably include some series/movies from other countries than Thailand too. Maybe. Let’s see.

Side note 3: While I sometimes say ‘this and this thing came from a movie’ or things like that, some things may have a comic or a novel as an original basis. Since I don’t know Thai, Japanese, Chinese or any other Asian language except for some Korean, I may not know about the original basis for some things, since I probably haven’t read the novel or comic. So please excuse if I make any mistakes like that.

Side note 4: I DO NOT RECOMMEND STUFF WITH SAD/DEADLY/BAD ENDINGS. They may be bad as in cliffhangers or strange but no real bad ones. I hate bad endings.

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Movie and Series

Last time I recommended My Bromance which came from a movie and was turned into a series (which you can watch without seeing the movie). This time I will recommend something similar. This one also came from a movie but I’m talking about both here.

Waterboyy.

Waterboyy. The Series. originates from a movie which comes from…I actually don’t know whether it was an original idea or if it comes from a novel or something like that. Well, the story in the movie and the series differ quite a bit.

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THE MOVIE. So, the movie is fast-paced and has some scenes that seem off or strange but by halftime the whole movie will make sense and have you enchanted. In general the movie is really sweet and a joy to watch. It’s about Nam, a playboy who likes to party, do perverted stuff and is a great swimmer on the school team. One day another boy transfers in, named Meuk and  they have to share a dorm room. Soon feelings begin to spark between the two boys.

Like I said the movie starts of slowly and it seems like the producers don’t even know where they want to go with this at the beginning but it picks up the pace quite soon and you’ll see some development. What I liked especially was the fact that you could see Meuk and Nam falling for each other equally and while they may not show it the same way, by the end you realise they are head over heels for each other, even if the ending is different than you may expect. Also I appreciated the closeness between them during the movie and other people noticing it too (and taking it positively).

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THE SERIES. Like with every Thai series, there is more than one storyline, so that’s something that is different from the movie. It’s not only about the two boys anymore but there are sooo many more storylines going on. If you say ‘I only like BL stuff to be about BL stuff’ then you’re gonna end up skipping a lot of scenes. Also a lot of people seem to think there is no chemistry between the BL couple although I don’t really share that sentiment. I admit that the chemistry is off in the first few episodes but it really picks up over time and by the end I thought there was no better pair than those two (even if you wanna slap one of them for how he behaves sometimes). Also the actor playing Apo (in the role taking the role of Meuk – they are all named differently in the series) is soooo cute and an amazing actor.

Also I think that the actor of Min (who was part of one of the straight couples in the show) did an amazing acting job too. I watched his storyline just for him.

The series took me some time to get over the first few episodes but then I just decided to go for it and I totally fell in love with it and watched it in one night and a day. I definitely recommend this for a nice Bl drama with quite some passion (physically and emotionally). I loved it.

Side note: you’ll see a lot of actors from other shows in the Waterboyy movie and series. Like Earn from Love Sick or M from Sotus or Phun from Love Sick (although he plays a straight guy this time).

Side note 2: SPOILER…this show is one of the few Thai BL shows which does feature some reaaal kissing and not just some pecks. I loved the stairs kiss!!

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Side couple

The following recommendation is not mainly about a BL couple. There is a BL couple there but it’s not the main couple. Still I like them a lot. Also because the ending for them was just oh so satisfying.

Side note: I loved this ending sooo much. Probably one of my favourite endings for a BL couple. 

Senior Love: Puppy Honey

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Puppy Honey has two season, just so you know. It’s about two friends in college, Porsche and Pick, and they are studying to be animal doctors (I think…I forgot a lot of the details of season 1 sorry). Their club, though, is on the verge of being disbanded if they cannot get any new members. So one day they meet Emma, who likes cats but despises and is scared of dogs, and Rome, her shy and gay best friend who is easily intimidated. And Porsche and Pick plan to make them join the club even if it means stalking them in a dog costume (that was so cute and creepy at the same time) or forcing their hand to fill the member application form (literally). 

What I think is amazing in season 1 is actually the fact that I not only liked Pick and Rome as a couple but also Porsche and Emma even though I only started watching for the BL. But Porsche and Emma are just too cute. So in Puppy Honey you actually get a lot of natural and slow development of couples. They don’t really fall for each other in just a few seconds of seeing each other but start caring for the other person and trying to make the other one happy. Pick and Rome …hm…let’s just say I think this is probably a very realistic portrayal of a one-sided crush although I love that Pick isn’t exactly angry about it but more like empathic towards Rome even if Pick can be a total douche sometimes.

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I recommend watching Puppy Honey if you have no problem with other non-BL couples as well as a slow pace. For Pick and Rome…I would watch the whole two seasons again just to enjoy the ending XD

ALSO, this just has to be one of the best shows regarding friendships. Pick and Porsche are just so great and funny together. Always making me laugh.

Side note: SPOILER!!!! ……..I just love how Rome tells Pick he can show his cool outside to everyone else but doesn’t have to use it with him, since he knows Pick’s cool already. Also when Pick just decides to give in and tells Rome straight up that he’s in love with him and even says it at the date later. 

Club Friday S08: True Love or just confused?

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I’m not a hundred percent sure I got the right number for the season but the rest should be correct for the name. I don’t really get myself why I’m recommending this. Maybe because I liked it more than I should have. The ending is not exactly happy but also not really bad…It’s more like you yourself can decide how to interpret it and decide whether it is a good one or a bad one. 

TLOJC is about two guys in…I think it was in school or college…, Todd and Meng, who became best friends. They do pretty much everything together until one day they have a fight. They lose contact and later meet again when working at the same firm. It’s about Meng calling to the radio programme Club Friday (someone at least told me that there was a real call like that and that is were the story came from…or I’m confusing it with another series) after the whole storyline of the four episodes went down and asking for advice. So everything is told in retrospect. 

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I liked it a lot more than I should have regarding the ending. But the chemistry is just sooo good. Also compared to other shows the guys don’t fall into the more typical characters of one giving in and the other taking charge. If you decide to watch it just be prepared for A LOT of drama. A whole lot. 

Side note: Many may wonder why I’m recommending this, since it’s definitely not fluffy or too happy at all. Slight SPOILER!!! Because the feelings in there are just so deep. They both try to stay away from each other, they try everything they can but in the end, they just can’t…and they need a lot of time to realise how deep their own feelings are…the story may be “whywhywhy” but the feelings are just short of “as epic as it gets for BL love”.

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Addicted

Addicted or Addicted Heroin or whatever is the official name now is probably one of the biggest BL shows out there. It’s a Chinese series and there was supposed to be a second season but then China, being China, decided to ban LGBT stuff from TV and online and the second season got cancelled. Still I love the series.

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It’s about Bao, who lives with his father and one day meets rich Gu Hai, who is angry with his father who married another woman and decides to attend a normal high school as revenge, and Gu Hai is immediately enthralled by his classmate. Soon they start spending most of their time together but there are still sooo many obstacles waiting for them.

As far as I know this series comes from a novel. It has a steady storyline and good acting and every flaw is balanced out by the great chemistry between the main characters. They match so well and even though there is a lot of tsundere going on they are just lovely together. No really, the one fact that makes up for like 90% of its flaws is the great chemistry between the two lead actors.

Side note: if you don’t know what tsundere means…please Google it. I’m just too lazy to explain it here. 

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Mother and male daughter-in-law / My monster in-law

EDIT: Since I’m not much for proof-reading it took me like 2 weeks to even realise that I put a vietnamese show, I think, in a Thai BL recommendations post…well, sorry. Now you know, I know that this one is not Thai.

Like with the other post I will try to recommend something that is not the most known or common thing. MMDIL has multiple translations of its name but search it with this one and you should find the right one (it’s even on youtube with eng subs). This one is from Vietnam, I think. If I remember right, it has around 30 episodes.

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MMDIL is about a mother whose son Cuong one day comes back from abroad, married. To a man, Jackie. Afraid her son will leave she decides to ‘accept’ Jackie and teach him all about being a daughter in law…and maybe get rid of him at the same time.

Let me just say, this show takes some getting used to. At least for me. Because Jackie is supposed to be from the US I think and so he uses a lot of English in the beginning. But don’t worry he’ll change to mostly Vietnamese a few eps in.

This series features really funny and good acting (especially later on), a fascinating main character (don’t ask me why but I just cannot stop watching Jackie), a believable married couple and character development. I was very surprised when I saw how open the main couple was with kisses and couply moments. I appreciated it a lot since they ARE married and it seemed real and not just like an act. Also the interactions are just really nice. It’s funny. And compliments to the mother, she was great and while she wasn’t always nice you could kinda understand her sentiment and feelings.

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Together with Me

Okay maybe I should recommend “Bad Romance” before that… Together with Me is the prequel/sequel series of Bad Romance.

Bad Romance told us the story of the couple Knock and Korn and their best friend Yihwa. It was a story about jealousy, love and commitment and gave us a cringenly happy ending.

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Together with Me is currently airing and gives us what we all wanted…to know how Korn and Knock originally came together. Together with Me is that story.

While I think Bad Romance was nice and okay, I’m totally in love with Together with Me. It’s nice to see the BL story of two long-time friends falling in love and getting together and knowing that it won’t end in tragedy. It’s still airing but I would still recommend watching it …(it’s also on youtube subbed by LazySubber and believe me…the show is totally different since this subber actually gives some commentary and it’s just amazing).

I’m really curious how the story progresses.

Side note: There’s also another interesting BL couple in the series.

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So for now, these are my recommendations. I’m mostly just too lazy too write more…if you like the recommendations or want a general list of what you could watch or have any recommendations yourself, feel free to recommend in the comments below.

Bye Bye

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VIXX – Zelos/Hades/Kratos Explained!

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Firstly, this is just me bringing together theories from all over the internet. I finally wanted to know what the story was about and after reading for some time (seriously there are too many theories what the story is about) I finally figured out an overall picture which makes sense although of course I have no proof or definite knowledge that this is what it is about. I just wanted to know for myself and this is what I came up with after some research.

Note: I’m using the words ‘is’ and ‘are’ a lot in this post even though I should rather use ‘I think’ or ‘in my opinion’ more often, but since I already explained that this is just an unofficial explanation, I’m gonna leave it like that 😛

For everyone who doesn’t even know what I’m talking about: The KPop boy group VIXX, also known as concept idols because they have a new concept with every comeback single, released a series of albums (and at the end one compilation album) in 2016. They revealed that the three albums or better the title tracks of each album are connected and they tell a story. The albums are named ZelosHades and Kratos, in that order. The respective title tracks are DynamiteFantasy and The Closer.

Note: Kratos was an Extended Play and not an album although I have absolutely no idea what the actual difference is.

Background knowledge: Zelos, Hades and Kratos are all part of greek mythology and all greek gods. Zelos and Kratos are brothers (which doesn’t mean anything in the story so I can just skip this actually). Zelos is like the personification of envy and jealousy but if I remember right also glory. Hades (shame on you if you don’t know that –.–) is the god of the underworld and people often think is the god of evil or something like that, which is not true. He was actually often portrayed as passive and neutral although cold and serious (which I think is also interesting in the context of this theory). And Kratos…I didn’t actually know about him before VIXX and the wikipedia article didn’t tell much, so I’m just going with what I heard here. He is often portrayed as the personification of power or sovereign rule…no, seriously, I didn’t find more that’s interesting for the theory, so let’s finally start.

The roles

Some of this might not make much sense, yet, but later in the longer explanation it will.

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Our protagonists are N and Leo. Two guys liking the same girl. / Our gods are Ken and Ravi (more details later on). / Our helpers and maybe also gods Hyuk and Hongbin.

The order of the story

One of the reasons why the whole story behind this concept series is so darn complicated is actually because the order of release of the albums isn’t chronological…well, not totally. It makes sense to release it like they did, if you believe my theory but if you want the realy chronological order it should be different.

So, Dynamite tells less of a story and rather the sentiment behind creating all this mess in the protagonists’ life. It tells the story of jealousy/envy and how someone wanted the love of a girl to himself and is confused that something didn’t work. In conclusion – this song is actually more like the second part of the series, instead of the first.

The second release was Fantasy which tells the story of how a man (N) who is in love with a woman who left him (with no warning or any signs I guess) for another man (Leo). To win her back he does something drastic and goes to the underworld to make a deal with Hades (Ravi) and get her back. Of course, making deals with gods and so was never the best idea, so it all ends in a mess. Looking back at Dynamite it makes sense that there they sing about having a woman for themselves but their plan not working, since the deal with Hades didn’t work in the end. This makes Fantasy the first part of the story, although it was the second single released.

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And now for number three and for why this is so darn complicated. Release three was The Closer and it tells the story of someone wanting to control someone else and have them to themselves. It picks up on the general theme of wanting something for themselves which was mentioned in all three songs but this time the story is kinda different. This story part can actually be taken as a pre-quel, a flashback with new perspective or an after story. I take it as the third part in the story but also as a flashback with a new perspective. Like all those mystery movies where in the end you get a flashback and finally see who is actually behind everything. This is pretty much exactly what is going on in this story.

The story

Since I take Fantasy as the first part of the story I’ll start there.

Fantasy starts with a man (N) being desperate because the love of his life left him for someone else (or disappeared, I’m actually not too sure), she’s not with him anymore. He is lost and he’ll do anything to get her back.

“I prayed under a bloodshot sky, that it’s all a dream when I wake up, it didn’t happen. I’m tired and I have nowhere to go. Please take me anywhere. I will do anything. Someone help.”

He asks from help to get her back, to change her being not there with him. He will do anything. I actually think that the word “Fantasy” in the song can both be seen as him having this horrible time where she is not there and hoping it is just that, a fantasy, but also as the fantasy of actually finding a way to get her back. So he hears about a way to get her back with a potion and plans to fulfill his fantasy of getting her back. He also sees it as the only way and something like the last chance.

“My fantasy will swallow up everything. I will change everything. (…) My tragedy. When the only way opens up. Save me, fantasy.”

In the video you see him deciding on what to do and Hyuk and Hongbin whispering in his ears. Back here you don’t know yet who is who or whether they want him to go to the underworld and get the potion or not. Well, he makes the decision to go to the underworld and open that door (haha, quite literally here).

I think Hyuk and Hongbin are either also gods or godlike figures who don’t want the others to mess with N or they are his friends who just don’t want him to do this. Here you also have to notice that it seems more like them being also gods and knowing Ken and Ravi, while Hongbin actually doing the (dirty) work for Ken and Hyuk trying to save N. So Hyuk tries to stop N from going to the underworld (the door scene), N pushes him away and you see him at a table with Hades (Ravi), Ken and Hongbin. Hades in general is the only god from the concept titles that appears in the story.

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We don’t know Ken’s role yet but don’t worry it will be revealed later on *muahahaha* Okay, so Ken is the one showing him to Ravi and making him get into a deal with the god.

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This is followed by a few scenes chained to a chair and the gods around him. Ravi is making the potion and in general it seems not very fun for N *no kiddin’, facepalm*

Please note: I’m ignoring A LOT of scenes because all of them make much more sense, when I explain them with The Closer

So, the potion is finished and a cursed sign appears on N’s hand. He is standing in the rain which, for me, means it, as expected, didn’t go well but ended in tragedy. There is also the scene where Ravi, Ken, Hongbin and Hyuk are standing together and later on put on black masks which imo shows that they are all gods but (maybe) not on the same side and all with their own opinion and agenda.

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Let’s go to number two Dynamite

…although there isn’t much to say here. It shows N with the cursed sign on his hand which translates to this is after Fantasy and him hanging his head that means…it didn’t work.

“The time is too late. I try turning back the clock.”

Sorry, to tell you this, mate, but turning back time never really works in reality T.T

“Even if I have to flip over the whole world girl, please don’t leave me today. Abracadabra, make this come true, all mine. Abracadabra, make her mind go back. I won’t believe it, something must’ve gone wrong. You don’t know anything. She was supposed to be mine”

And these lyrics definitely tell me that this is after Fantasy. He would do anything for the girl, even something supernatural like Abracadabra or going to the underworld and Hades and getting a love potion. And yea…’supposed to be mine’…it really didn’t work then (as we all expected would this be a real movie).

“This is a dream that’s like a nightmare. Someone is messing around with me.”

Here it is!!! Finally a sign that someone is actually messing around with him! This gets us so much closer to The Closer, it’s scary.

“She went from Snow White to a witch overnight. Something is clearly wrong.”

So, I guess, she wasn’t the same after taking the potion which comes as no surprise as such potions never work…ever.

“I was supposed to be the hero, Dynamite, but I’ve become the villain.”

He wanted to get her back and be the hero, but it didn’t work and messed everything up completely.

So that’s it for Dynamite. It’s like N thinking and trying to guess what went wrong, but also a song about the whole sentiment in the story before and the story to come. Now, let’s got to The Closer.

First off, The Closer doesn’t have N as the protagonist but someone new…Ken! I think some people even mentioned that he was Zeus in this MV, which means he was Zeus all along, but overall it doesn’t make much of a difference who he is and more what he has done. Most of the MV is from his perspective which means you don’t see much of Ken but in some scenes he appears (and I think that is just, so you recognize that it’s from his POV).

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We also make a time jump. The Closer shows us more about how this whole mess started but imo it stills belongs as number three in the story because that would be so movie like to have this twist at the end.

It starts with Leo running out of a red room, N and the girl being together and the others inbetween. For the sake of explaining it, I’m just gonna jump around in the MV now. As later revealed, the red room is Ravi’s room or Hades territory if you wanna say it like that. Leo running out of that room and Ravi playing with the potion…anyone? anyone? Yes, N and the girl were together but Leo wanted her for himself so he made the potion-deal with Hades. Unfortunately that didn’t go as expected and she kind of changed (her dull expression and her being in the hands of Hades, like he has her now and she won’t go back to who she was).

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You see Ken walking around, looking at everything, watching. Also Hyuk and Hongbin trying to stop N, which imo means that both of them may be gods (like in Fantasy revealed) but they are there to protect N and not to hurt and trick him. Some people say Ken managed to make a deal with them like “You want to save him? Work with me and you will” and maybe Hongbin falls for it, since he is later seen in the table scene with Ken.

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Now a lot of the skipped scenes in Fantasy make sense too. N and Leo seemingly being connected or the scene where they are standing in front of this mirror thing and seeing each other. It’s like N taking the same path and making the same mistake as Leo by falling for Ken’s plan and making a deal with Hades.

“Let me control you, ohohoh. I open your senses. Let me control you, ohohoh. Trust only my eyes.” 

This imo has two meanings. First, Leo wanting to have control over the girls heart with the potion but also Ken wanting to control everyone and creating this horrible fate for N and the girl.

This also makes sense with Kratos, who is like the god of power and rule. It meaning that Ken controlled everything from the beginning. He saw what was happening and decided to bring N to Hades, let him make the deal and curse him that way. No idea why, but as greek mythology books have shown us…the greek gods weren’t exactly reasonable when playing with mortals or making a lot of sense.

Of course, the whole last video could also just be interpreted as Ken watching everything going on but that would be boring, senseless to make a music video about it and not explain why he was leading N to Hades in Fantasy, so I’m going with my long theory.

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For me, this will be what the MVs and the songs are about. And after realising the whole story I can only say one thing…

Please, make this into a movie!!!

Seriously, this would be awesome as a movie or a show. The whole aura around the MVs and the perfect acting…I can totally see them in their roles and Ken would make a great villain with all the charisma…haaa, I can continue dreaming right?

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I hope this helped explain the story in the MVs. Like I said this is just my opinion and not a confirmed theory.

If there are any open questions (maybe I left something out…this is such a long post, I’m sure I left something), feel free to comment below 😀

 

Ha, this was fun ^.^

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